who schools who. slash and zakk cut heads

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Mfvlrxkbo&feature=player_embedded#!

I personally think Slash destroyed him.

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I agree. Slash killed it in tone and feel.

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'87 sherwood wrote:

I agree. Slash killed it in tone and feel.

if you listen real closely you can hear slash say "this is how it is done son"

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 13396 Location: Earth

Neither one schooled the other... It's all a matter of preference. As soon as we can stop wondering who the better player is we can enjoy the art instead of thinking of playing as a competition.

Joined: 15 Dec 2008 Posts: 4250 Location: Derry, N Ireland

Fan of both.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFrcPgyRG9w

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:48 am

I thought they were both pretty damn good..... actually compliment each other very well!

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bazzabalboa wrote:

Fan of both.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFrcPgyRG9w

+1

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Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

Neither one schooled the other... It's all a matter of preference. As soon as we can stop wondering who the better player is we can enjoy the art instead of thinking of playing as a competition.

Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 9602 Location: Portsmouth, VA

BLOODROOT wrote:

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

Neither one schooled the other... It's all a matter of preference. As soon as we can stop wondering who the better player is we can enjoy the art instead of thinking of playing as a competition.

This. The tongue, not the sentiment.

Razz

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:35 am

They both bring a lot to the table

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Northwinds wrote:

They both bring a lot to the table

This also. The tongue, not the sentiment.

I guess you could say I want to lick you, Lan...nin...g...

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BLOODROOT wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Mfvlrxkbo&feature=player_embedded#!

I personally think Slash destroyed him.

I agree blues is supposed to have taste and feel not shred a million notes i swear u can hear zakk playing the same runs over and over boring me to death.If i was there i would have played some soulful tasty licks with a flash run here and there.looked to me like zakk was just trying to out shred slash playing as fast as he can cause ive seen zakk play blues and i know hes capable of tasty licks.But usually its just a bunch of over playing the same licks over and over.if u think im full of it watch this zakk video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUHfihk4-Y&feature=related
if u can sit through this whole video or wankathon ur a better man than i!
here watch this vid this kid is much more tasteful than zakk maybe the kid could give zakk a lesson.Seriously listen to zakks solo then listen to this kid with ur eyes closed and tell me what sounds better.Shed is cool but taste is king.
take away all the image,hype and use ur ears and tell me which sounds better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUe1Sr-4LBk
Sorry to all the zakk fans but it is what it is.

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RobBouchardDeanml wrote:

Sorry to all the zakk fans but it is what it is.

You're not offending anyone in reality. True Zakk fans don't care what people say. You could have said the same thing about B.B. King or Eric Johnson. You don't speak for the guitar playing world Laughing

It's all personal preference.

Most people only focus on lead playing as a gauge of a player's ability which is a really bad thing to do. Unfortunately the world of guitar enthusiasts can be shallow in that respect (not pointing the finger at any of you). If you look at Zakk's song writing, rhythm playing, chicken picking, piano playing and acoustic ability as the majority of his playing then you can look past some of the nonsensical noodling and you'll realize he's an exceptional talent.

Slash is the same way. He has his own style and is a very good blues player, that being said he's not the cleanest of players. If you watch him live there are times he can be quite sloppy, whereas Zakk can do the same thing night after night with precision. It doesn't make one better than the other at all.

My favorite modern blues player is Ritchie Kotzen and you don't see anyone comparing him to Slash or Zakk but in terms of ability he could decimate both of them with one hand...

It's not a competition. Neither one of them is a better player. Some of you could be considered "Better" players than some of these guys by others. Gauging ability kinda kills the beauty of the music. Taste and opinion are just personal.

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Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

Most people only focus on lead playing as a gauge of a player's ability which is a really bad thing to do. Unfortunately the world of guitar enthusiasts can be shallow in that respect (not pointing the finger at any of you). If you look at Zakk's song writing, rhythm playing, chicken picking, piano playing and acoustic ability as the majority of his playing then you can look past some of the nonsensical noodling and you'll realize he's an exceptional talent.

Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 5601 Location: phoenix az.

to me zakks overall composing skills and songwriting make him a great player if i was just focused on his 20 minute guitar solos or application id say less.zakk is a great musiscian and a good hearted dude and has had his hand on making some great music over the years.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 14460

Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

That being said, Gary Moore would've spanked the snot out of both of them.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:46 pm

If you combine Slash and Zakk, you get this Cool

Watch the whole video then check out his Redhouse and Voodoo Chile clips. Nice mix of feeling and flash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg7DKZ8_sYE&feature=related

This one is pretty cool to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10H4vRLrrUs&feature=fvwrel

Joined: 28 Sep 2012 Posts: 379 Location: Kent, UK

Jim6 wrote:

That being said, Gary Moore would've spanked the snot out of both of them.

Yup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9hCIiZ-gE

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:43 pm

Jim6 wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

That being said, Gary Moore would've spanked the snot out of both of them.

Gary Moore was in a league all his own. That dude could wring every bit of emotion out of a note Cool

Joined: 19 Jan 2007 Posts: 3197 Location: UK

Was a lot of stepping on each other toes on that performance, personally there were good bits from both but the first min was crap imo.

Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 437

I love them both! Apparently I'm not alone or they wouldn't have Gibson and Marshall endorsements. Apples and oranges as far as players go. Theres a vid out there of Ozzy and friends where Zakk, Slash, and Gus G. play paranoid. I can't follow any of the links above at work so I don't know if its one of them already mentioned, but it's worth taking a peek at.

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 13396 Location: Earth

If we're posting clips I'll just leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHFzbz2I4Bo&feature=related

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I agree with lanning, ive seen both live several times and slashes most recent band and zakk is way more accurate, i guess it is a matter of taste, as slash has the feel thing, altho zakk has it in spades too. and zakks tone would eat slashes last time I saw both live. anyway who cares some kids on the road would claim their hondas are bettr than my gto..idgaf

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Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

If we're posting clips I'll just leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHFzbz2I4Bo&feature=related

Sorry about the resurrect, but DAYUM! I was aware of Kotzen, but I NO IDEA he was such a bad ass....

Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 614 Location: Yorkshire, England

DQuinlan wrote:

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

If we're posting clips I'll just leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHFzbz2I4Bo&feature=related

Sorry about the resurrect, but DAYUM! I was aware of Kotzen, but I NO IDEA he was such a bad ass....

Yeah, I started listening to some of his stuff recently, I was quite impressed.

Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 1278 Location: Blackpool, UK

Sorry to change the subject again...but back to Gary Moore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUaevnP1LLg

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My heart is breaking........and it's your fault, bitch

or

I'm in a bad place and melancholy, but don't know why except maybe it's the fault of another person that may or may not have caused me emotional or physical or financial pain or maybe it's because of her friends and their hateful thoughts and words ALLIGATOR ALLIGATOR ALLIGATOR AAAAAAAAAAA LI GAAAAAAA TOR Where was I? Oh yeah I was rambling on about what might be going on WAAAAAAAAAAH in my head, which is a scary place to begin with because I wasn't hugged enough as a child and had some potty training issues where I often made the stinkpickle in the pants during class and the other kids hated me for it, even though I was smarterfastercooler than them (except for the smelly britches part) and they were all just jelly for it hold on it's time for me to pose one out here and toss off for a bit Twiddly Twiddly Twiddly deedle deedle deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedle dooooooo maybe I'll just get hammered and drunk dial her to see if she'll take me back, m'kay?

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DQuinlan wrote:

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

If we're posting clips I'll just leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHFzbz2I4Bo&feature=related

Sorry about the resurrect, but DAYUM! I was aware of Kotzen, but I NO IDEA he was such a bad ass....

You should watch him shred gilberts solos when he was in Mr. Big

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:55 pm

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

If we're posting clips I'll just leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHFzbz2I4Bo&feature=related

I enjoyed this thanks, sounded a lot like Trower in tone

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:15 am

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

Neither one schooled the other... It's all a matter of preference. As soon as we can stop wondering who the better player is we can enjoy the art instead of thinking of playing as a competition.

+1

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:47 pm

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

Neither one schooled the other... It's all a matter of preference. As soon as we can stop wondering who the better player is we can enjoy the art instead of thinking of playing as a competition.

...says the only grownup in the room! i agree.

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they both jam well with each other!! But im a big zakk fan

Joined: 28 Feb 2012 Posts: 58 Location: Southwest MN U.S.

I'd take Zakk's voice over both Laughing

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:21 pm

Zakk at GMM2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8cNw2iGZ0Y

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xero_uk wrote:

Sorry to change the subject again...but back to Gary Moore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUaevnP1LLg

One of those moments where music sounds great and feels even better. Love that clip! Thankfully, I've had the pleasure of seeing both of these guys live.

Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 340 Location: cali.

different brains on different trains, I love them both.
I am from a much older generation . I respect all talent but the old school stuff was so melodic. Not so much shred as now but lots of heart.
I got this clip it is a cover but for the sake of time I didn't put the whole original song up. Scorpions/Uli and MSG/UFO , Bill Nelson long been my favourites even though most of what they did in 70's is completely over looked and somewhat irrelevant now.

This guy does a decent cover of the solo , tone is not spot on :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxttuulR104

I have seen scorpions with Matias but that was 10 years after Uli. I have seen Uli but he didn't cover any Scorpions back then. This is 2013 and he still has it. :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EotlrAp2j78
Sail of Charon middle section scale is crazy and he explains as though mortals could play this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQWuKv4HCWc

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I'm going to see him 40th scorps tribute!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwXtVR11eho&feature=player_embedded#!