Remember BLS with the phony Marshalls?

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:29 pm

Now check this stuff out.

And I thought Tom was cheap.. shessh!

Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 817

I new his tone was to good far a marshall lol got the power balls hiding!

Joined: 28 Sep 2012 Posts: 379 Location: Kent, UK

Would be funny if that was BLS, Felice Laughing

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:06 pm

well, shipping that stuff does cost money..

.they saved a bunch of money by cutting my dummy cabs in heads in 1/2 Laughing

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 10589 Location: Canada

Yeah, dummy cabs are all for show... and that's part of what people are paying for. Does anyone think his leather outfit makes him sound better?

Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 2974 Location: UK

Armitage wrote:

Yeah, dummy cabs are all for show... and that's part of what people are paying for. Does anyone think his leather outfit makes him sound better?

Yes because we all know that low mids reflect off of leather in to the audience better than any other material.

Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1737 Location: in the past

my only thought is...why?...

why pretend to use marshalls. i really never knew he did this. pretty funny!

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:15 pm

ML Tib wrote:

Now check this stuff out.

And I thought Tom was cheap.. shessh!

Immortal

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:17 pm

Saw this before..., isn't that WASP Question

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:13 pm

bassmantim71 wrote:

Saw this before..., isn't that WASP Question

No .......it's Norwegian Black Metal band Immortal

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 13396 Location: Earth

Rule of thumb I think. Any band that has more than 2 cabs per guitarist on stage of the same amp are running dummy cabs. I can see running one or two live, for wet/dry, stereo effects etc. Any more than that these days and they are not real. Of course you have guys like Joe Perry that run 6 different amps on stage so that's a different story altogether.

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 10589 Location: Canada

You've come a long way Lanning;

http://www.deanguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90971&highlight=image

Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: Minnesota

That thread was awesome!

Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 4622 Location: UP of Michigan

Armitage wrote:

Yeah, dummy cabs are all for show... and that's part of what people are paying for. Does anyone think his leather outfit makes him sound better?

Everyone knows spandex sound the best.

Joined: 19 Jan 2007 Posts: 3197 Location: UK

Microphones are amazing things.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:15 am

warmonger wrote:

my only thought is...why?...

why pretend to use marshalls. i really never knew he did this. pretty funny!

Prestige.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:15 am

mesa8699 wrote:

bassmantim71 wrote:

Saw this before..., isn't that WASP Question

No .......it's Norwegian Black Metal band Immortal

Thank You Michael, I didn't know who it was either. Laughing

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:16 am

longhurstgb wrote:

Would be funny if that was BLS, Felice Laughing

It wouldn't surprise me George, after seeing that last fake rigs they used.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:20 am

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

Rule of thumb I think. Any band that has more than 2 cabs per guitarist on stage of the same amp are running dummy cabs. I can see running one or two live, for wet/dry, stereo effects etc. Any more than that these days and they are not real. Of course you have guys like Joe Perry that run 6 different amps on stage so that's a different story altogether.

I finally realized all those cabs Priest had on stage were not real after I saw this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20_UjYAAW1Y

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Armitage wrote:

You've come a long way Lanning;

http://www.deanguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90971&highlight=image

That's not the half of it. When we go on tour I'm ordering 3 dummy cabs so I can put a full stack on both sides of the drums next to the banners. Sh1t will look dope. Splawn said they will make me dummies that match my real cab for cheap.

I took this photo at the last BLS show in Vancouver. Nick and Zakk each have a cab in front of the drums that is live, and each have one cab live on the stacks on either side. They both run stereo chorus so this helps get a wider tone. All of the cabs on stage are full size though. Each one has its own road case. I watched them unpacking them. I didn't get any photos behind the wall but nothing back there is plugged in except the fake heads and one cab on either side.

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ML Tib wrote:

I finally realized all those cabs Priest had on stage were not real after I saw this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20_UjYAAW1Y

For their Screaming for Vengeance tour, they had an upper set of amps too! It looked really cool. It didn't take long to notice only a couple amps had their lights on! But 99% of the audience just went WOW!

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 10589 Location: Canada

kingoflight wrote:

Microphones are amazing things.

In a perfect world there's no reason you can't mike up a 6 watt amp and put it throught the P.A. and be happy. But then you're at the mercy of the sound guy and the quality of the P.A.

If you're big enough and headlining, feel free. But if you're playing medium sized places, with a different P.A. every night, too small of a P.A. or some clueless local sound guy like the owners brother-in-law, it can drive you nuts!

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 10589 Location: Canada

Lanning is Killdozer wrote:

Armitage wrote:

You've come a long way Lanning;

http://www.deanguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90971&highlight=image

That's not the half of it. When we go on tour I'm ordering 3 dummy cabs so I can put a full stack on both sides of the drums next to the banners. Sh1t will look dope. Splawn said they will make me dummies that match my real cab for cheap.

I took this photo at the last BLS show in Vancouver. Nick and Zakk each have a cab in front of the drums that is live, and each have one cab live on the stacks on either side. They both run stereo chorus so this helps get a wider tone. All of the cabs on stage are full size though. Each one has its own road case. I watched them unpacking them. I didn't get any photos behind the wall but nothing back there is plugged in except the fake heads and one cab on either side.

Nice to see you've come to the dark side...

The best tone I ever got was with three amps. Left, right and center. Usually with an analogue stereo chorus on the L+R (hey it was the '80s!) and sometimes with just a 20 Millisecond delay on the other side to make it fatter/wider (I think it was 20... hmmmm). Always check to make sure the delayed side is the other side of the stage if you're only using two amps, it can really mess up your playing otherwise. The center was set up with less gain to give me more bottom end (gain and stereo chorus kind of eats bottom, you notice it more when you're loud), and a distortion pedal and a 800hz boost only on the center for leads.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:38 am

Armitage wrote:

ML Tib wrote:

I finally realized all those cabs Priest had on stage were not real after I saw this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20_UjYAAW1Y

For their Screaming for Vengeance tour, they had an upper set of amps too! It looked really cool. It didn't take long to notice only a couple amps had their lights on! But 99% of the audience just went WOW!

Maybe for that tour, but if you look at the Electric Eye video from US Festival their amps were all offstage.

Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 7418 Location: Backenforth, USA

This is what's wrong with music. It's all about the image and not about the tasty jams, yo. Laughing

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:15 pm

Nothing looks more impressive then a wall of Marshall stacks, real or not, powered or dummy

Yngwie has one of the most impressive walls of Marshall I have ever seen. Judas Priest was another

Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 5598 Location: phoenix az.

while back i had both my rigs in one place 2 marshall heads and 3 cabs man what a thick sound 12 speakers pushing air was very addictive.Didnt even have to crank it to feel it in ur chest.truely awesome to play through if u havent done it i highly suggest u try it!