Dean resale values

Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 5452 Location: White Haven,Pa

Dean resale values TOTALLY SUCK.I will NEVER buy another Dean EVER again!!!!!
Rant over Mad

Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 7418 Location: Backenforth, USA

The cool ones will go up in value as soon as these retarded graphic guitars put dean out of business.

/drunken rant

Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 2431 Location: Midwest, Sweden

never existed Laughing

Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 5452 Location: White Haven,Pa

I M Evil wrote:

never existed Laughing

WTF are you even talking about?

Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 9602 Location: Portsmouth, VA

Don't ever count yourself out of a new Dean, just make sure it's something you REALLY want and will keep, forever. Resale aside, their USA stuff is top shelf.

Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Posts: 1268 Location: Easton Ma

formula73 wrote:

Don't ever count yourself out of a new Dean, just make sure it's something you REALLY want and will keep, forever. Resale aside, their USA stuff is top shelf.

Tell that to the guy in Spain with a botched custom.
Im really not one to bash so I'll just say I love my Tele..

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 10588 Location: Canada

Resale on just about anything not mainstream sucks.

Joined: 04 Jun 2012 Posts: 345 Location: South-West Ohio

in this market...? resale on ANYTHING sucks. Period.

Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 5763 Location: Joisey

pariah2 wrote:

in this market...? resale on ANYTHING sucks. Period.

Troof. But, yeah...Deans are WAY down there. Laughing

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:10 am

Eternal Scar wrote:

I M Evil wrote:

never existed Laughing

WTF are you even talking about?

I think he's replying to the thread title, eg: 'Dean resale values never existed'.

What happened anyway, did you get shafted in a sale?

Joined: 28 Apr 2011 Posts: 1737 Location: in the past

actually deans were nothing but good to me when i custom painted them and sold them. i ended up making over 300 in profit on custom korean mls. of course i picked them up cheap to begin with so...

Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 8254 Location: Ontario, Canada

The first time i took my TCML to band practice they saw "Dean" on the case and said they were surprised I'd have a cheap crappy guitar. I took it out of the case and handed it to the other guitarist who was very impressed and said he'd seen nothing like it from Dean before.

Here in Canada most stores who sell Dean carry the bolt on X-Series and the baby DFH and Camo Dime. Most people wouldn't take a USA Dean for $500 here because they think they are all plywood garbage.

Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 612 Location: Yorkshire, England

Value of Dean's are only maintained by those who want them, ML's etc are only pouplar with a few. Of course they're going to be worth less to the used market. Also bear in mind that there is a ridiculous number of gibson's (all shapes/models) out there, these will depreciate due to the availability (which at this time is very high). Used market is close to pointless, you should only buy a guitar if you are dedicated to keeping it nowadays.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:06 am

You want a Dean, you better make sure you are buying it, because you want to play it. It is NOT an investment grade instrument.

I guess I reinfoced Nothern Monkey's statement.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:12 pm

what about discontinued Models?
I own 2 that are discontinued.And ive never seen another Dean archtop besides mine.(Dean Performer/VS archtop)I know they exist but most were all flat tops from what ive seen.

1969 Gibson Goldtop Deluxe
1942 Gibson L-7
2004 Dean Performer/VS archtop
2004 Dean Evo SS Quilted Maple.

Joined: 05 Mar 2012 Posts: 77 Location: Evanston, IL

All the reason to only buy used. I love that the resale values are absolute sh1t. It allows me to pick up cool Deans for less than half of new 1 to 2 years later.

Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 2182 Location: New York City

Resale value on all guitars suck these days. Remedy to that? Don't buy guitars unless you're completely in love with them.

I don't intend on buying another guitar that I won't keep forever. Saving up money and buying a USA guitar > buying multiple imports that you enjoy for a little bit, but don't want to keep in the long run.

Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 4749 Location: Indiana

1.) Like many of you guys, when I buy a guitar I have no plans of selling it, so resale value doesn't even enter my mind.

2.) I don't mean to be making a mean comment, but it may come across that way.

I think that in the attempt to maximize sales, and reach a wider sales market, Dean pumped out such a massive amount of lower end guitars, that as stated above, led many many people to believe that low end stuff is the only thing Dean has ever produced, thus driving down resale value.

Joined: 14 Jun 2010 Posts: 368

AhsanU wrote:

Resale value on all guitars suck these days. Remedy to that? Don't buy guitars unless you're completely in love with them.

I don't intend on buying another guitar that I won't keep forever. Saving up money and buying a USA guitar > buying multiple imports that you enjoy for a little bit, but don't want to keep in the long run.

Couldn't have said it better!!

Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: Minnesota

Anyone thinking that a guitar is a legitimate investment oppurtunity has issues.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 5799

Ahsan nails it. You guys know I've made shitloads of money over the last 11-12 years flipping over 300 guitars and even I am finally getting out. I have 1 guitar and 2 amps left to sell and that's it. Even as cheap as I get them I can't make it worth my while anymore. The occasional $3-500 I make on a Gibson just isn't worth all the time I spend on forums, websites, traveling to get them, money spent on packing supplies etc.

Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 1949 Location: NY

Pretty much everything is worthless these days. It's not just guitars. Nobody has any money to spend on stuff they don't absolutely need.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 2130

Wombat wrote:

1.)...when I buy a guitar I have no plans of selling it, so resale value doesn't even enter my mind.

^^^

Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 1581

Re-sale may not be there right now, but EVERY TIME I go in a GUITAR CENTER, I see a New Era or Generation of whatever Metal is these days , & a LOT of those Kiddos LOVE Dime & I at least see a Kid, buying or Jamming one, cuz they have FLOODED the store with his Fiddles! Would like to see more older style or just plain regular model DEANS in Guitar Centers, I don't think I ever have without it being a Signature Model Rolling Eyes

Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 814

Zombie Apoc wrote:

Re-sale may not be there right now, but EVERY TIME I go in a GUITAR CENTER, I see a New Era or Generation of whatever Metal is these days , & a LOT of those Kiddos LOVE Dime & I at least see a Kid, buying or Jamming one, cuz they have FLOODED the store with his Fiddles! Would like to see more older style or just plain regular model DEANS in Guitar Centers, I don't think I ever have without it being a Signature Model Rolling Eyes

thats because you own all of them lol. I had to Laughing

Joined: 19 Dec 2011 Posts: 147

JohnC wrote:

The cool ones will go up in value as soon as these retarded graphic guitars put dean out of business. FACT!

/drunken rant

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:16 am

Ive never bought a guitar as an investment and i understand my archtop is low end.I think I payed $220.00 plus tax new but after setting it up it plays like a well....$220.00 guitar but a nice $220.00 dollar guitar.I admit when i purchased my L-7 for 20 bucks at a garage sale and after I got over the fact that i rescued it from serious neglect I did do a cha-ching!! in my mind.
My Evo SS was $539.00 new,I got it used at $270.00 but it plays like a dream, feels very comfortable and balanced and after setting it up I enjoy playing it just as much as my LP...Seriously.The Evo SS can hold it own and plays like a much more expensive Instrument.I played a PRS-SE (single cut)Korean made in the very same factory as my Evo and the PRS -SE was crap compared.I was shocked and disappointed to say the least.The Body was thin and light and felt cheap.And the PRS was $425.00 used.

1969 Gibson Goldtop Deluxe
1942 Gibson L-7
2004 Dean performer/VS
2004 Dean Evo SS Quilted Maple

Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 5593 Location: phoenix az.

Buy used theres a shitload of used deans out there,.problem solved

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:29 pm

I've managed to flip a few guitars here and there and have not lost on any of them. Probably came close to break even a few times Very Happy

But yeah, guitars are pretty much a non-investment item, unless you are into real collector guitars, and can get them, basically, from someone who has no idea what they have. Otherwise, you have a people with an internet connection who think they know what they have.

I have pretty much stopped looking at guitars with flipping them in mind. Jeeze, if Lon is walking away from the flipping business you know the market is in bad shape. I've never seen anyone flip like he does.

Nowadays when I look at guitars, it's got to be about love, because chances are the guitar is going to be around a long time!

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:32 pm

The 'buy used' thing applies to almost everything, but especially guitars and cars.

The cost of USA Deans would be lower, if Dean painted their own guitars, but they send them to California, which makes the paint jobs cost twice as much plus shipping two ways (which adds more than the cost of shipping, due to shipping 'accidents').

If Carvin can paint guitars, why can't Dean? Also, Dean should not offer any USA guitars with a cheesy graphic (I don't know if they do now).

It would also be nice if all guitar companies would stop the use of excessively high markups for MSRP and use MAP prices as their new MSRP, with no MAP prices. Even better would be for Dean to go to the 'direct to public' type of sales, as is done by Carvin. If Carvin can sell a brand new USA carved single cut guitar for $1500-2500, then so should Dean! Dean USA sales would probably triple or more with this type of sales (IMHO).

Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: Minnesota

Oh man. That would be pretty sick if Dean did Factory direct with no dealer network. I've always wondered about Carvins, but just am too afraid to shell out the dough. But I KNOW I love SOlteros and Deceivers, so that would be great news for me.

Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 971 Location: Rock Hill,SC

60srocker wrote:

The 'buy used' thing applies to almost everything, but especially guitars and cars.

The cost of USA Deans would be lower, if Dean painted their own guitars, but they send them to California, which makes the paint jobs cost twice as much plus shipping two ways (which adds more than the cost of shipping, due to shipping 'accidents').

If Carvin can paint guitars, why can't Dean? Also, Dean should not offer any USA guitars with a cheesy graphic (I don't know if they do now).

It would also be nice if all guitar companies would stop the use of excessively high markups for MSRP and use MAP prices as their new MSRP, with no MAP prices. Even better would be for Dean to go to the 'direct to public' type of sales, as is done by Carvin. If Carvin can sell a brand new USA carved single cut guitar for $1500-2500, then so should Dean! Dean USA sales would probably triple or more with this type of sales (IMHO).

I agree with everything you stated sir. Also since Dean has started the direct buy( http://shop.deanguitars.com/ ) how come the prices are no different from getting them from MF or AMS & the like? i always assumed(dangerous i know) that some of the price reflected on the 2nd party making money as well. That i don't understand. I could understand ordering from Dean over waiting for your local store to get it in but that's about the only benefit i see. Anyone care to explain this in a non condemning way? Laughing

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:00 pm

60srocker wrote:

The 'buy used' thing applies to almost everything, but especially guitars and cars.

The cost of USA Deans would be lower, if Dean painted their own guitars, but they send them to California, which makes the paint jobs cost twice as much plus shipping two ways (which adds more than the cost of shipping, due to shipping 'accidents').

If Carvin can paint guitars, why can't Dean? Also, Dean should not offer any USA guitars with a cheesy graphic (I don't know if they do now).

It would also be nice if all guitar companies would stop the use of excessively high markups for MSRP and use MAP prices as their new MSRP, with no MAP prices. Even better would be for Dean to go to the 'direct to public' type of sales, as is done by Carvin. If Carvin can sell a brand new USA carved single cut guitar for $1500-2500, then so should Dean! Dean USA sales would probably triple or more with this type of sales (IMHO).

Issue with painting... they would have to buy all the equipment and hire (and retain) talented employees to paint. That might end up costing more!

I have no suggestions on the MSRP & Map other than they would all have to stop doing it.

Direct to public... then they #1, have to have the staff and infrastructure to handle it & #2, piss off all the stores that currently carry Deans who they are now undercutting.

Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 436

I'm glad they have shitty resale because I love em and I've scooped up quite a few in the past year or so for almost nothing. I guarantee I could make money on several that I have bought. I just don't buy new ones. I wait til I find a great deal on one that I really want and make it happen.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 14454

BKW wrote:

Issue with painting...

I've no idea how far Florida has gone with regulations regarding the materials and equipment necessary to run an inspected/registered/certified/compliant paint shop.

It very well could be cheaper in the long run to subcontract the work elsewhere. Since I haven't been shown the books, I've no idea whether that would include shipping them to California or elsewhere for the work to be done.

The Carvin business model works for Carvin. It probably wouldn't work for every other company. I think it's a giant leap of faith or simply a WAG to assume that what works for one company will work for all others. There are always bits and pieces that can be taken from any business model and applied to a company's specific circumstances, but I believe it to be unwise (a nice way of phrasing "you'd be nuts to believe......") to simply pick up an entire model and try to make it fit for every situation.

I have some ideas that I think would work and I (no doubt....) have others that would fail miserably. But, since I'm not on the payroll and the folks at Tampa haven't asked me for my opinion on things lately, I'll keep them to myself.

JCF

P.S. :
As for worrying about resale value, buy what you love. If you're concerned with buying it and playing it until you're bored with it or just feel the need for something different, then go into it with eyes wide open. It's going to cost you, regardless of what name's on the headstock. There are very few new guitars on the market today that are going to appreciate in value over time.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:59 pm

Metalfac3 wrote:

60srocker wrote:

The 'buy used' thing applies to almost everything, but especially guitars and cars.

The cost of USA Deans would be lower, if Dean painted their own guitars, but they send them to California, which makes the paint jobs cost twice as much plus shipping two ways (which adds more than the cost of shipping, due to shipping 'accidents').

If Carvin can paint guitars, why can't Dean? Also, Dean should not offer any USA guitars with a cheesy graphic (I don't know if they do now).

It would also be nice if all guitar companies would stop the use of excessively high markups for MSRP and use MAP prices as their new MSRP, with no MAP prices. Even better would be for Dean to go to the 'direct to public' type of sales, as is done by Carvin. If Carvin can sell a brand new USA carved single cut guitar for $1500-2500, then so should Dean! Dean USA sales would probably triple or more with this type of sales (IMHO).

I agree with everything you stated sir. Also since Dean has started the direct buy( http://shop.deanguitars.com/ ) how come the prices are no different from getting them from MF or AMS & the like? i always assumed(dangerous i know) that some of the price reflected on the 2nd party making money as well. That i don't understand. I could understand ordering from Dean over waiting for your local store to get it in but that's about the only benefit i see. Anyone care to explain this in a non condemning way? Laughing

It would eliminate "dealers" right? How can they sell to a dealer for more then they will sell direct to public? I know it makes no sense to me, every Dean dealer I have seen sells mainly imports while the USA stuff sits and collects dust because of the high markup

Eliminate the dealers I say, be a truly unique guitar company and not have your products flood stores. There is a thing about highend guitars that you have to search for and not be crushed with a store full of imports with the same brand name. This will never likely happen though

People see tons of cheap imports and just automatically think the USA stuff is not much better since they look pretty much alike with minor differences hidden under the paint or control cavities

This is why Gibson succeeds, their cheap import line is a totally different brand name not to be associated with the real deal

I think if Dean changed the name of their import stuff to something else and stopped offering import versions of USA guitars, they would again be a factor in the marketplace. Save the overly pointy wierd graphic stuff for the imports and sell the traditional stuff as USA only and offer it at a price more competitive then Gibson. They would still make a ton of money of their imports and the USA stuff would just be icing on the cake for those that care about what they buy

It makes more sense to sell the USA stuff for a loss while your rebuilding the brand to prominence since most of the money made is off imports anyway

I think it's better to save your money for a real Dave Mustaine then be a poser with a import. It kills the USA line for prospective buyers and in the longrun, kills resale vale

BTW, I sold my 2001 Les Paul Standard for $4000 to a buyer in Australia (not including the shipping charge of $600). Why did I get so much? Because the same guitar would STILL cost more in Australia. You don't want to lose your shirt on resale, then find the market where the same guitar is more expensive used and don't be afraid to ship Internationally. Pack well and insure it to the max to protect your butt

Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 971 Location: Rock Hill,SC

Northwinds wrote:

Metalfac3 wrote:

60srocker wrote:

The 'buy used' thing applies to almost everything, but especially guitars and cars.

The cost of USA Deans would be lower, if Dean painted their own guitars, but they send them to California, which makes the paint jobs cost twice as much plus shipping two ways (which adds more than the cost of shipping, due to shipping 'accidents').

If Carvin can paint guitars, why can't Dean? Also, Dean should not offer any USA guitars with a cheesy graphic (I don't know if they do now).

It would also be nice if all guitar companies would stop the use of excessively high markups for MSRP and use MAP prices as their new MSRP, with no MAP prices. Even better would be for Dean to go to the 'direct to public' type of sales, as is done by Carvin. If Carvin can sell a brand new USA carved single cut guitar for $1500-2500, then so should Dean! Dean USA sales would probably triple or more with this type of sales (IMHO).

I agree with everything you stated sir. Also since Dean has started the direct buy( http://shop.deanguitars.com/ ) how come the prices are no different from getting them from MF or AMS & the like? i always assumed(dangerous i know) that some of the price reflected on the 2nd party making money as well. That i don't understand. I could understand ordering from Dean over waiting for your local store to get it in but that's about the only benefit i see. Anyone care to explain this in a non condemning way? Laughing

It would eliminate "dealers" right? How can they sell to a dealer for more then they will sell direct to public? I know it makes no sense to me, every Dean dealer I have seen sells mainly imports while the USA stuff sits and collects dust because of the high markup

Eliminate the dealers I say, be a truly unique guitar company and not have your products flood stores. There is a thing about highend guitars that you have to search for and not be crushed with a store full of imports with the same brand name. This will never likely happen though

People see tons of cheap imports and just automatically think the USA stuff is not much better since they look pretty much alike with minor differences hidden under the paint or control cavities

This is why Gibson succeeds, their cheap import line is a totally different brand name not to be associated with the real deal

I think if Dean changed the name of their import stuff to something else and stopped offering import versions of USA guitars, they would again be a factor in the marketplace. Save the overly pointy wierd graphic stuff for the imports and sell the traditional stuff as USA only and offer it at a price more competitive then Gibson. They would still make a ton of money of their imports and the USA stuff would just be icing on the cake for those that care about what they buy

It makes more sense to sell the USA stuff for a loss while your rebuilding the brand to prominence since most of the money made is off imports anyway

I think it's better to save your money for a real Dave Mustaine then be a poser with a import. It kills the USA line for prospective buyers and in the longrun, kills resale vale

BTW, I sold my 2001 Les Paul Standard for $4000 to a buyer in Autralia (not including the shipping charge of $600). Why did I get so much? Becasue the same guitar would STILL cost more in Australia. You don't want to lose your shirt on resale, then find the market where the same guitar is more expensive used

yea didnt think about how the dealers would react to the under cut. i remember one of the first threads i took part in about Dean doing another brand for imports. my suggestion still stands to call the import brand Phoenix guitars. the logo would be kickass. if a company like Dean ever cut out the dealers man oh man they would have to promote like crazy just so the name could be out.

Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 5452 Location: White Haven,Pa

ML Tib wrote:

You want a Dean, you better make sure you are buying it, because you want to play it. It is NOT an investment grade instrument.

This is soooooooo true!!!!

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:51 pm

Only top shelf guitar companies have a resale value

2 come to mind...

Gibson

PRS

everybody else...not so much.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:00 am

60srocker wrote:

Even better would be for Dean to go to the 'direct to public' type of sales, as is done by Carvin. If Carvin can sell a brand new USA carved single cut guitar for $1500-2500, then so should Dean! Dean USA sales would probably triple or more with this type of sales (IMHO).

I suggested that once to Elliott and Z-man. Their answer was "what about our dealer network? We have to keep them in business."

I told them to take a look at what Carvin, and Bill Lawrence were doing. Now they have less dealers. It seem the only place you can find a Dean here is at Guitar Center. And not the USA models either.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:01 am

Grim Reaper wrote:

Only top shelf guitar companies have a resale value

2 come to mind...

Gibson

PRS

everybody else...not so much.

Don't forget Fender either. Laughing

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:03 am

Northwinds wrote:

Metalfac3 wrote:

60srocker wrote:

The 'buy used' thing applies to almost everything, but especially guitars and cars.

The cost of USA Deans would be lower, if Dean painted their own guitars, but they send them to California, which makes the paint jobs cost twice as much plus shipping two ways (which adds more than the cost of shipping, due to shipping 'accidents').

If Carvin can paint guitars, why can't Dean? Also, Dean should not offer any USA guitars with a cheesy graphic (I don't know if they do now).

It would also be nice if all guitar companies would stop the use of excessively high markups for MSRP and use MAP prices as their new MSRP, with no MAP prices. Even better would be for Dean to go to the 'direct to public' type of sales, as is done by Carvin. If Carvin can sell a brand new USA carved single cut guitar for $1500-2500, then so should Dean! Dean USA sales would probably triple or more with this type of sales (IMHO).

I agree with everything you stated sir. Also since Dean has started the direct buy( http://shop.deanguitars.com/ ) how come the prices are no different from getting them from MF or AMS & the like? i always assumed(dangerous i know) that some of the price reflected on the 2nd party making money as well. That i don't understand. I could understand ordering from Dean over waiting for your local store to get it in but that's about the only benefit i see. Anyone care to explain this in a non condemning way? Laughing

It would eliminate "dealers" right? How can they sell to a dealer for more then they will sell direct to public? I know it makes no sense to me, every Dean dealer I have seen sells mainly imports while the USA stuff sits and collects dust because of the high markup

Eliminate the dealers I say, be a truly unique guitar company and not have your products flood stores. There is a thing about highend guitars that you have to search for and not be crushed with a store full of imports with the same brand name. This will never likely happen though

People see tons of cheap imports and just automatically think the USA stuff is not much better since they look pretty much alike with minor differences hidden under the paint or control cavities

This is why Gibson succeeds, their cheap import line is a totally different brand name not to be associated with the real deal

I think if Dean changed the name of their import stuff to something else and stopped offering import versions of USA guitars, they would again be a factor in the marketplace. Save the overly pointy wierd graphic stuff for the imports and sell the traditional stuff as USA only and offer it at a price more competitive then Gibson. They would still make a ton of money of their imports and the USA stuff would just be icing on the cake for those that care about what they buy

It makes more sense to sell the USA stuff for a loss while your rebuilding the brand to prominence since most of the money made is off imports anyway

I think it's better to save your money for a real Dave Mustaine then be a poser with a import. It kills the USA line for prospective buyers and in the longrun, kills resale vale

BTW, I sold my 2001 Les Paul Standard for $4000 to a buyer in Australia (not including the shipping charge of $600). Why did I get so much? Because the same guitar would STILL cost more in Australia. You don't want to lose your shirt on resale, then find the market where the same guitar is more expensive used and don't be afraid to ship Internationally. Pack well and insure it to the max to protect your butt

^This^

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:10 pm

ML Tib wrote:

Grim Reaper wrote:

Only top shelf guitar companies have a resale value

2 come to mind...

Gibson

PRS

everybody else...not so much.

Don't forget Fender either. Laughing

Depends on the year... Laughing

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:50 pm

IMHO, it adds at least $100 to the manufacturer's (Dean) cost to ship guitars to CA and back for paint, including postage, packing, labor for same, etc. This turns into $400 at the retail level. On top of this, the painter in CA has to make a profit, too (a 50% gross margin - low by modern standards - requires a 100% markup!), which doubles (before any shipping) the cost of the paint!

So, a $400 paint job for Dean would actually cost $500 and could add up to $1600 to the retail price of the guitar.

If Dean painted their own, the cost would be $200 (IMHO - relative to $500 in the current model - also IMHO), or about $400 on the retail price. That trip to LA for paint could be costing us an additional $1200, not to mention the distributor and dealer markups. No wonder Dean USA guitars are so pricey!

'Nuff said!

Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 5452 Location: White Haven,Pa

There never is a resale value on import Deans because let's face it....they are imports.But anyone who drops big $$ on a USA Dean better love it and keep it forever because if you do ever try and sell it you will be lucky to get 1/4 of what you paid for it!!!

Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 99 Location: WV

Eternal Scar wrote:

There never is a resale value on import Deans because let's face it....they are imports.But anyone who drops big $$ on a USA Dean better love it and keep it forever because if you do ever try and sell it you will be lucky to get 1/4 of what you paid for it!!!

I am just speaking on the Dime series guitars here because that's mostly what I deal with but imo one thing that probably hurts the sales and value of the USA Dean versions is that other than some of the graphics they look exactly the same as the import guitars so to me there is really no extra thrill factor there to justify spending thousands extra for the USA version.That's one thing that got me hooked on the Washburns is the differences between their import and USA Dime Guitars are drastic.If they were like Deans and both versions looked the same I would have saved a ton of money and be owning all imports!

Joined: 06 Jul 2011 Posts: 121

Already been said but I will echo it again because it is so true.
Buy your axes based on what you find desirable as a player - not as an investor (unless that is your thing and if so, good luck).

Although, this conversation could be pretty interesting in 20+ years when good woods are becoming even more scarce, and plastic/composite guitars become the norm. Perhaps even those despicable imports might pop in value.

Also, wait for the next economic boom cycle - see what that does for prices.

My Deans were all purchased 2nd hand - paid Reasonable prices for high quality instruments and I play the hell out of each of them (average price per USA Dean +/- 1,300 USD) and they are all in excellent cosmetic and playing condition.

In reviewing the 2013 catalog, I am looking at my next purchases in 2-3 years time.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:01 pm

Please buy new Deans that I like and then sell them for 1/3 of the price! My wall thanks you (currently at 10 guitars). Cool

Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 2974 Location: UK

Grim Reaper wrote:

Only top shelf guitar companies have a resale value

2 come to mind...

Gibson

PRS

everybody else...not so much.

What about Music Man? Their USA Petrucci's seem to hold their value very well. They are amazingly constructed instruments.

Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 436

60srocker wrote:

Please buy new Deans that I like and then sell them for 1/3 of the price! My wall thanks you (currently at 10 guitars). Cool

I have recently lost count. I bought 3 in February. Laughing

Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 224 Location: Belgium

Why somebody would buy ANY guitar with the purpose of reselling it beats me... unless we're talking about real vintage guitars that are xx years old etc... but any new guitar bought will lose value the moment you buy it. Dean or any other brand for that matter.
Buy a guitar because you like to play it, not because you think you can make money when reselling it...
And actually this goes for a lot of other things also... like amps, I never buy amps new because you can find them for 1/3 the price on the used market. (when I want to buy a used amp I test it, then send it to my local amp tech, re-tube it if needed and bang, good as new Smile

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