Guitars

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 3939 Location: Orlando, FL

Is one able to order a Time Capsule made out of maple? Weight is not an issue for me, it is actually preferable.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 4797 Location: BEERMUDA

I dunno....why not, on the other hand Korina was definately NOT possible!

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 583 Location: St Joseph Missouri

It won't hurt to ask. I have to talk to Dean today anyway. I will see what he says.

Dave
Bass & Treble Music

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Thor,
When I was going to have another TC Caddy built a while back I was informed by Mick that building a TC from all maple would make the guitar incredibly bright sounding and it was not recommended.
Bill

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 2132

spacebeer wrote:

I dunno....why not, on the other hand Korina was definately NOT possible!

Why? did you ask for this option...?

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 3939 Location: Orlando, FL

Justnoldbluzman wrote:

Thor,
When I was going to have another TC Caddy built a while back I was informed by Mick that building a TC from all maple would make the guitar incredibly bright sounding and it was not recommended.
Bill

Yeah. I am just looking for something denser than the Mahogany that the '79s are built with. I need mass and density!

Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 136 Location: Tulsa, OK

Thor Intrepid wrote:

Justnoldbluzman wrote:

Thor,
When I was going to have another TC Caddy built a while back I was informed by Mick that building a TC from all maple would make the guitar incredibly bright sounding and it was not recommended.
Bill

Yeah. I am just looking for something denser than the Mahogany that the '79s are built with. I need mass and density!

How about walnut? its about as heavy as maple. but has a bit darker tone.

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:49 pm

and I donn how it would sound but hickory is almost the heaviest you could get. That wood is as strong as iron, when it is dry.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 393 Location: Lake Mary, Florida

Here's a link to Warmoth's description of tonewoods:
click on the "wood descriptions" area
http://www.warmoth.com/common/frames/guitarbodies.htm

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 3939 Location: Orlando, FL

Thanks for the link Joe. The Jackson RR1 I sold a while back was made of Alder and it had the weight and feel I liked. I think I would like Mahogany a little better if I had a piece that was really dense.

Maybe I am just being too finicky?

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 393 Location: Lake Mary, Florida

Hmm, I thought alder was lighter than mahogany?! Maybe the RR1 felt heavier because of the trem.

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Basswood and maple make a great combo. That is what my Ernie Ball Music Man Axis is made of and it is sweet sounding.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 393 Location: Lake Mary, Florida

Well Thor, we've got the Orlando Guitar show next month, then DOA III to try out plenty of guitars. Got G.A.S.?

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 162 Location: Northwest Missouri

Justnoldbluzman wrote:

Thor,
When I was going to have another TC Caddy built a while back I was informed by Mick that building a TC from all maple would make the guitar incredibly bright sounding and it was not recommended.
Bill

I have to disagree with an all maple guitar being incredibly bright. I have numerous G&L's, with maple bodies and necks, and they are not bright.

Sprinter

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:59 pm

Keep in mind that the TCs are prolly made out of a better grade of mahogany. If you want a dense dark sound, Maholgany is essential. The darkest sounding guitar I ever played was a LP Custom with a Mahog body, neck and Top, and it was heavy as hell. All maple is NOT a good idea.

Why not a all mahogany TC with a solid 79 'style' finish? Cheaper and I bet it would sound badass.

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 11:01 pm

Sprinter wrote:

Justnoldbluzman wrote:

Thor,
When I was going to have another TC Caddy built a while back I was informed by Mick that building a TC from all maple would make the guitar incredibly bright sounding and it was not recommended.
Bill

I have to disagree with an all maple guitar being incredibly bright. I have numerous G&L's, with maple bodies and necks, and they are not bright.

Sprinter

Different design and construction though. Those are Fender style instruments that really lend themselves to that kind of wood. Make an all maple set neck Gibson/Dean style and it will be bright. Way bright.

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Sprinter,
I was not aware that G & L built all maple body guitars. There is a difference between a body of swamp ash/maple top or alder/maple top. According to G & L s website and catalog none of their guitars are solid maple body. Both swamp ash and alder have a "chimieness", that is what gives Strats the unmistakable sound and tone that they have.

My TC Caddy has a maple top and it is brighter than any of my other DEANs that I own. Most of my Deans are solid Honduran mahogany bodies, and I have only 1 with a veneer maple top.

Neck wood definitely also contributes to the tone of the guitar also, my all maple neck Strat, is brighter than my maple/rosewood one.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 393 Location: Lake Mary, Florida

I get a mailer from a place I believe is called Guitar Galleria. They sell a bunch of Les Paul Historics. They give a bunch of stats on each one they sell -- weight, pickup resistance, and rate the guitar on a scale of tone, from warm to bright. Its amazing how the same shape and substance of a guitar will vary from another on its tone rating. We are dealing with wood guitars that can be cut from different heights/parts of a tree, and that will effect its tone. We can make generalizations, but must realize every guitar is different.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 5324

Koa is nice..

i thought that exotics for the body and neck were out of the question..

obviously the tops are another story..

i'd like to have a Maple necked Caddy.. essentially, the same exact construction as a LP Custom, but in a Caddilac..

or a one piece (neck and body) V made of white korina.. (not a set neck, nor a neck through.. just one single chunk of wood..)

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 162 Location: Northwest Missouri

Justnoldbluzman wrote:

Sprinter,
I was not aware that G & L built all maple body guitars. There is a difference between a body of swamp ash/maple top or alder/maple top. According to G & L s website and catalog none of their guitars are solid maple body. Both swamp ash and alder have a "chimieness", that is what gives Strats the unmistakable sound and tone that they have.

My TC Caddy has a maple top and it is brighter than any of my other DEANs that I own. Most of my Deans are solid Honduran mahogany bodies, and I have only 1 with a veneer maple top.

Neck wood definitely also contributes to the tone of the guitar also, my all maple neck Strat, is brighter than my maple/rosewood one.

Bill,

I collect early G&L's, made when Leo Fender still owned the company (1980-1991). In the early days nearly everything was maple or mahogany. Ash became an option in the late 80's. Alder was never used on a G&L until after Leo died.

Sprinter