ok. someone tell me...

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

who thinks the evo sucks. I saw the poll results and someone thinks it sucks!!! Evil or Very Mad

.............so who else likes the evo

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All BS they are all just as good just comes to your own preference!

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 1088 Location: Espoo, Finland

I don't think Evo's sucks. I just prefer ML and V shape of Deans. Everybody's got their own favourites.

Mikko

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:53 pm

Explorer is my all time favorite guitar shape so I'm partial to that styling first and foremost. Reminds me of myn favorite car '57 Chevy. Coincidence they both have big ins? NOT!!! I like the Z in paticular although I only own 1 Dean now, a Czech Korina V. I forsee a Korina Czech Z high on my list.
Usually if a guitar sucks it has nothing to do with the guitar model.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 2036 Location: VALHALL

hmmm.... I think you'll have to decide whats better than the other by trying them out .. one by one .... the guitar you think is best, is best for you !!

I hold my hands on Caddy Bass !! Laughing

did I say US made ? ........... blue ?

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Bernt wrote:

I hold my hands on Caddy Bass !! Laughing

did I say US made ? ........... blue ?

Bernt,

Your killing me! Very Happy

Mikko

PS. Keep it up. It will come someday Wink

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 2036 Location: VALHALL

Guest

They are all equally as GOOD. Why do you think one has to be better than the other ?

It is a matter of personal preference, not which is better. I have owned all the models the Caddy (I have a TC) the ML,V,Z selects, I tried an Evo, but didn't buy it although I did think it was a fine guitar. They each have their strong points and their draw backs, depending upon your style of playing. that is what makes DEAN so diverse.

I would hardly call your polls anything to base merit on with less than 12 responses.
Bill

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 2036 Location: VALHALL

Well said Bill !! Very Happy

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

I guess it depends on the person playing it... I like the EVO and I like it very much. And who said the ML and Vs and Zs sucked. I like those guitars but like i said, i'm sticking with evo... Very Happy

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

Anyone here think the Les Pauls have a better sound than Deans. Sounds like a good topic to discuss here. Cool

Guest

As an owner of a Les Paul a TC caddy and now 2 Chafin Embers (Ben Chafin is the designer of the Evo) I can tell you the Ember outshines my Les Paul, TC Caddy that I own, and the Evo that I played.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:53 pm

ML.

Round guitars suck.

Joined: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 127

Bill, you are so right. I think it all depends on what type of sound your looking for. I like hot wound pups, so a guitar w/ "classic" humbuckers aren't gonna be enough for me. Know your style and match it with the right axe.

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My choice is..........

d.) All of the above

Jim

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 111 Location: Texas Gulf Coast

As an older player I don't care for the pointy guitars, but that doesn't mean they suck. Just all a matter of what floats your boat. A Strat is really about as pointy as I like. I had an EVO SS but sold it and bought a US G&L Legacy. I think any guitar you are happy with is the right choice. Shocked

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:42 pm

Indeed. The EVO SS is a great guitar. However so are the Caddies and the Pointies. I think the best thing about Dean is the variety offered. Almost any guitar player will find something they like with Dean.

I don't see any of them as being 'better' or 'the best' because as stated before it's all in the eye of the beholder. My favorite guitar changes week to week. Currently my SG is the one I pick up first. Go figure.

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Vanilla Gorilla wrote:

ML.

Round guitars suck.

+1

I have owned two LP's 1981 Custom and a 76 deluxe and both were like firewood compared to my TC's!

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:21 am

That's some expensive firewood tho... Shocked

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ML, do you need to say anymore?

AND brents Blue US Caddy Bass!! Wink

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Dim3 wrote:

ML, do you need to say anymore?

...YOU ASK ME Question

US CADDY BASS Very Happy

you can have all the MLs you like ..... as long as I get my Blue Caddy Bass Very Happy

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:53 am

Hahaha. Patience! I hope Dean Z. is reading all your posts Bernt.

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Ok, and i guess ive got to mention the BLUE CADDY BASS!!!!

ok i edited the post now....

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ROFL

Thanks

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I know after the Caddy bass you will want an USA made ML bass!

HAHAHAHHAHA

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:08 am

Great!

Now I'm starting to want a Blue US Caddy Bass... Laughing

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Yes, me to, it a wierd phenomena!

Damn brent now evry1 want a Blue Caddy Bass!!!

Good job!!! Laughing

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Ahhhh I LOVE YOU GUYS Very Happy

Let the Crusade begin Laughing

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

Hey Gorilla, What do you mean round guitars suck. If your talking about the EVO i don't appreciate it in here!!!!!!!!!!!!What guitar do you think is the best...?????????????????????

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There is one thing i think doesn't go good with the ML V Z or whatever is the top of the neck. It is a little big and pointed out for me.

And the same for the custom series, the top of the necks are on way to much of a slant. Very Happy

Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 97 Location: Murfreesboro, TN

Well Joe...er Gorilla (must have regressed in species) Rolling Eyes

likes ML's and only ML's, that way he never needs a guitar stand.

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ok i don't know how to put a pic in...so i can't show my guitar pic...lol Laughing

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juliantraverse wrote:

check out my dean evo
[img]C:\My Documents\My Pictures\100_1252[/img]
hope this works Smile

You have to upload your picture to some hosting website first. Then you can link them here.

Mikko

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

here a pic of my precious guitar

hope it works

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and it did work. the pic went in perfect. so whatdeya think of me guitar??? Cool

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so...what is the deal with the Hardtail. Why are they so expensive than the others. They probably don't sound any better than the others Confused

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:14 pm

The 'tails are the new flagship USA guitars from Dean... sound, feel, and taste are all subjective... beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak.

However, if I were to buy a guitar, I think it would be an EVO.

Dave

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

What an excellent choice hunter. What guitar do you have now?

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Anyone like Quilted Sunburst???????????????????????? Mr. Green

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:38 pm

I'm currently down to 2 basses at the moment... an 81 ML bass, and the prototype DOA Caddy bass. Instigator seems to have a way of "adopting" most of my family... but this is only a temporary situation.

The guitar I currently own, is a Maya LP clone... old, beat up and currently a basketcase. It does have some potential though... arched top, bolt on neck, inlays, bound body, neck and headstock.

New basses on the horizon are to include the '04 DOA bass, perhaps a new Z , and maybe even one of them there blue USA Caddies that Bernt is lobbying for... Wink

If I did buy an EVO, it would be the new budget model... I can't justify spending several hundred dollars on a six string, seeing how I really SUCK on the guitar... Laughing

Dave

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

i agree, i paid $1150 CND for mine! Cool

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 4381 Location: Vaasa, Finland

SUCK ON THIS

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:15 pm

While that is truly great looking, paint won't make me play any better Laughing

That color sceme on a V bass though..... ( sproing!!! ).... oh, so sorry, please excuse my wood.....

dave

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Hunter wrote:

I really SUCK on the guitar

Suck on that1 instead!!! Laughing

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

That thing is ugly Very Happy

Guest

Its all a matter of personal preference, correct?

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

hey i need a little help here... is it normal for the strings of the guitar vibrate up against the frets making a buzzing noise WHEN YOU PICK A BIT HARD???????????????? Question

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:46 am

juliantraverse wrote:

i agree, i paid $1150 CND for mine! Cool

Uh, that's like $850 U.S.???

Doesn't an EVO SS retail for $650 U.S.?? I've seen them go on Ebay for $400 U.S. - that's like $540 Canadian!! OUCH!! Shocked

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

the exchange rate at the time was 1.54(54 cents added to the US Dollar), so that's 680 x 1.54 = $1047.2, so 1050 + tax which is 1.15, so 1.15 x 1050 = $1207 so that is what it comes down to! Very Happy

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:53 pm

juliantraverse wrote:

so...what is the deal with the Hardtail. Why are they so expensive than the others. They probably don't sound any better than the others Confused

Think again there my friend....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:56 pm

Um - you can buy a new EVO SS for less than $400 U.S.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2367798311&category=41435

$379 plus lets say $50.00 shipping to the great white north = $429. Based on the high exchange rate of 1.54 - that would be $660 Can. Add GST (7%) and PST (in Ontario where I am it's 8%) and your now at $759. Add another $20 for brokerage fees and your at a grand total of $779.

It's fine if you bought it without really knowing the price market - live and learn. I just don't want you to think that $1150 is a good price for an EVO - they can be had for WAY less.

By the way - what part of Canada are you from?

Joined: 30 Nov 2003 Posts: 697 Location: Colorado

60srocker wrote:

The pointy guitars definitely suck!

That post definitely sucks, I'll tell you that.

I don't have anything bad to say about a Dean that retails for more than $180 {ya gotta have standards, and the playmates are for newbies}

Evo/Z,mL,V,/Caddy: The bottom line is that I'd be pretty stoked to have any of em. I love my ML's and I'm trying to get a Caddy now.
An Evo would find it's way into my collection for sure if I ran across one and happened to have the cash...

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 218

dude, everyone is different and if it is good to you, than of course it doesn't suck! I used to myself through the same type of toment and thinking this vs that, etc. Just be happy and find what you like. I have two Evos and they are great guitars. Actually........one of my favorite designs.

But, it's time for me to get a Chafin Ember. Very Happy

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:03 am

Deans play twice there value to me.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:06 am

an example:

My Step father owned, pre-that dec 25 holiday, several self built acustics and one fender, and a vintage gibby. I was generous this year and bought him a ML Phantom. He said it played better than all his other guitars and it was cheaper thean his telecaster.

FOOLS there is only one name for guitars, DEAN

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:05 am

hey guys.... my zx plays better thren my now discombobulated gibby does! i mean thats like a 400.00 price difference!

Z'S RAWK!!! '

(after DOA it shall be)

Z"S AND ML'S RAWK!!!!

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BTMN wrote:

Explorer is my all time favorite guitar shape so I'm partial to that styling first and foremost.....

NO!!! REALLY ?!?

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 111 Location: Texas Gulf Coast

Everyone has their favorite guitar shape. Whatever makes you happy is the best guitar for you. I draw the line at the Dean "Budweiser" guitar though.

<-------- NOTE: Non-Pointy guitar.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:09 pm

i want a pointy guitar. Sad

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 4381 Location: Vaasa, Finland

Buy 1?

Guest

I'm not gonna tell you guys what to like and what not to like, but... You can't be serious, to think that by having a bolt on ML that you are qualified to make a valid blanket judgement in Dean Guitars quality. I got my first ML(custom ordered) in '81. I prefer the Hardtails and top O' the line eVos to it hands down. I HONESTLY prefer the Korean setneck Icons to it. All Day Long... I'd love to get a new USA value Dean or a Premium Czech to further compare. The T.C. 's that I have encountered are very close to the Chicago Guitars.

Joined: 31 Dec 2003 Posts: 693 Location: Back to life !

I Love Pointy Guitars , (that why I casted vote for V,Ml,Z)
The Closes I get to rounded is my good Old Strat ,
True it all about preferance , But I hate any part of a Guitar body
restricting my access to upper string at the end of the neck .
(Plus, the neck on Evo seems a little stocky ... Laughing

)

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

What do you mean STOCKY!!!!! I'll tell you right now that there is nothing wrong with the evos neck Evil or Very Mad

it is a beautiful guitar in my eyes!! Very Happy

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 4797 Location: BEERMUDA

I own both vintage and TC DEANs and I have played a lotta KOrean DEANs (a big music store here stock korean DEANs and Hartails).

I still haven't played anything with better tone than my 1981 Flame ML, my new TC ML custom and my TC V and that includes teh Hartails...I don't think the EVO"s are in the same league BTW....not to bash them but how could they ever be being hundreds cheaper, in European cases thousands!

A guy I know just bought a faded denim Hardtail and I played it a lot through my POWERBALL I was surprised since I though I wouldn't like it at all, but I did like it in some way....but I still wouldn;t buy one.....

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Guest

Julian,

There is no comparision between the Korean guitars and the USA DEAN line at all !

The Czech line of guitars are closer to the USA DEANs.

The necks are a bit thick on them and the neck joint leaves something to be desired,to some people.

In the price range that your Evo falls it is a great guitar for the money, BUT there is no way that you can compare it to a $2000.00 USA DEAN guitar. That just shows how new you are to all of this in my eyes.

Bill

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 1163

Hans, you just haven't played the right eVo, yet. Mine are two of the best playing, sounding guitars I've tried. No other guitar puts a big old shite eating grin on my face when played like the Millenniums twins. Of course the pups probably aren't hot enough for your metalness and the necks make the Czech and Korean necks seem ultra thin, but it all works for me.

What didn't you like about the HardTail? I'm guessing the neck didn't feel right, since your Mls and V all have v-necks. I'd also guess the pups weren't your cup of tea either. I wonder what one would sound like with a set of the hot Bill Lawrence pups?

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

EVO ROCKS!!!!!!
the neck are not thick, i know that for a fact, the necks are very slim on the special select!

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:39 am

My EVO SS has the fattest neck I've ever played. It's like a frickin 50s neck. I've never been able to explain it.

Bring on the USA Singlecut! When's NAMM again?

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 4381 Location: Vaasa, Finland

YEA!!! Bring on the USA singlecut!!! The evo isnt really in my taste, the HT definatley beats it in evry way...

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:40 am

juliantraverse wrote:

i know that for a fact, the necks are very slim on the special select!

And make that statement based on how many other Deans that you've played. How many TC's have you played? How many Hardtails? How many Caddies?

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Not many, i can tell...

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None of your business! Very Happy

Guest

Author Message
juliantraverse

None of your business!

Now thats a sure fire way to win friends in this forum. Rolling Eyes

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Dim3 wrote:

Not many, i can tell...

LoL , +1

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no it is not a good way, but let me get this straight no one disses my guitar!!!!!!!!

Guest

Julian,

Man back the attitude wagon down a bit. You came out like gangbusters and basically said that your Korean made guitar is as good as the USA line of DEANS.

Take a look at peoples lists of guitars they own, I think that many of us are more qualified than you, a new forum member who owns his first DEAN, many of us have had numbers of DEAN guitars and many of us still do, both USA, Czech and Korean.

The Evo is a good guitar for the market niche that it fits in, and yours is a nice looking one, BUT no way can it stand up to my USA 25th Anniversary Time Capsule 3 Cadillac, in any catagory, looks , feel,sound, play ability, or to any other USA DEAN guitar. Those are the facts, not meant to offend you but to inform you. Many people here have started out with a Korean Evo and moved up to the next level be it a Czech made Dean or the ultimate a USA DEAN. Perhaps one day you will also,or maybe not. But whatever choice you make you are a DEAN owner first and formost.
Bill

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

My guitar is the best to me!

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 3939 Location: Orlando, FL

Lest we forget that the fist is always goo.

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Bro, i cant stop drooling for that Caddy, it perfect! Shocked

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:42 am

Dim3 wrote:

Bro, i cant stop drooling for that Caddy, it perfect! Shocked

Hands off Bro. She's mine!!! Twisted Evil

It's already in the will... Laughing

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:14 am

juliantraverse wrote:

My guitar is the best to me!

Whatever you say Beave... Rolling Eyes

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 4797 Location: BEERMUDA

juliantraverse wrote:

no it is not a good way, but let me get this straight no one disses my guitar!!!!!!!!

saying it is not as good as a USA made far more expensive DEAN is not dissing...

I own the 2003 DEAn Caddy which is korean made and it is a nice axe, extremely nice but it doesn't surpass any of my USA in any way!

I am happy for ya you like your EVO I am shure price/quality they are hard to beat....

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:41 am

+1. I love my EVO SS, but quite frankly it's smoked by my custom guitars. Don't get me wrong, it still gets plenty of use, but nothing beats a good handmade axe. Period.

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ponch wrote:

+1. I love my EVO SS, but quite frankly it's smoked by my custom guitars. Don't get me wrong, it still gets plenty of use, but nothing beats a good handmade axe. Period.

+1 , Ofcourse i dont own a eVo SS but ive tested both eVo's and USA series and the USA just blows em away...

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

Listen, I don't care about your Caddy or whatever or how good it is! What I have, I like, So i'll be talking about the EVO Special Select. If you don't like it well don't comment on it and not about the polls. I talk and like what I like Exclamation

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:26 pm

juliantraverse wrote:

Listen, I don't care about your Caddy or whatever or how good it is! What I have, I like, So i'll be talking about the EVO Special Select. If you don't like it well don't comment on it and not about the polls. I talk and like what I like Exclamation

Wow dude.... way to make an impression!

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

dont' ya just hate it when people run down yur guitar... pisses me off about my evo special select.

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

anyways, to get away from argueing, there is a guy that got a EVO ebony. What kind of guitar is that? Confused

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A quote came to mind.................

"Lighten up, Francis"
Sgt. Hulka / "Stripes"

Guest

Julian,
It certainly is a sad commentary on some of the youth today when they offend somebody else then whine when it happens to them.

You aren't the first person to buy an Evo select and won't be the last, but your Evo isn't the end all be all DEAN guitar.

Take a little friendly advice from someone older and wiser.

Why not sit back and try to use the forum to your advantage and learn all you can about what great guitars all the DEANs are, and learn to accept some of their shortcomings also.

Instead you choose to pi$$ everybody off with your childish rantings and polls.

Want to know about the ebony Evo learn to use your PM and ask him yourself.

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

i am a little on the edge here now but I decided to stop and learn. The guitar Evo Special Select is a good guitar to me and thats what counts. So what kind of guitar do you have now?

Joined: 31 Dec 2003 Posts: 693 Location: Back to life !

Dude suck it up and Hold your tongue ,
Show that your a mature young person for god sake ,
When you post something it isn't reserved for you alone
least of all a post when you ask the opinion of your fellow members

What it breaks out to is personal preference ,
But what it racks up to is the EVO will never , ever , ever , be as
good a a Custom shop . And that is the god honest truth ,
Maybe once you either own one or play one you will understand why your agruement is folly and childish .
Something one learns as they get older is self restraint !

nuff said ,

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

ok...

this is a wicked guitar

Guest

Julian currently I have :

2003 DEAN 25th Anniversary Time Capsule 3 Cadillac, the first and only one done in transparent black, the first 11 top that was done, and offered to me by the man himself Dean Z.

This is a prototype that was built a 1 off

If you would like to see some of my other guitars feel free to check my home page:
http://hometown.aol.com/ccsplumislandman/index.html

There are more Deans that I still have a 1996 Cadillac Premium Select in transparent purple, a 1980 DEAN E'Lite Deluxe a 1982 DEAN E'Lite, they are not pictured because I just don't have the space on my site.

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

cool guitar... it is the only one that is done it black.
That's probably why I never saw it before! Laughing

Guest

Heres the 1996 Dean Caddy Premium Select

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

cool guitar Shocked

you have a pretty big collection of guitars, unlike me I have only 3

Evo
Stinger X-12
Yamaha F-310 Acoustic

Guest

when you are 51 you will too stick with it.

Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 1163

Nope, Jullian, you are right. The eVo is the greatest guitar ever and you should be commended for standing up for yourself. These guys just don't have a clue, one of a kind, custom shop, handmade, poke your eyes out pointy, BFHS, blah, blah, blah. Wink

Actually, you like the guitar you have and that is fantastic. Keep playing and learning. Cool

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 61

thanks trapper!

what kind of evo do you have? It is a USA!

Mine is made in Korea and a good guitar
it is! Very Happy