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Guys i went to a local store today to try out heads . I always bring my maxon od808 in my pocket walked by the orange jim root and said o cool. Went on playing all other heads bogner ect. on the way out i said to my self im trying this thing. plugged in and said wow this thing sounds cool and it was loud also. put my maxon in front and WTF!!!! im buying one VERY soon one of the best sounding mini heads i have herd  |
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Lanning is Killdozer

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Awesome! Remember the ENGL Ironball is coming out soon too. Check it out before making that final decision  |
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My buddy just got the Jim Root with the matching 2 x 12 cab....it totally kicks ass |
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jd267

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| My buddy just got the Jim Root with the matching 2 x 12 cab....it totally kicks ass |
I may have to go buy one .. |
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i really liked the rockerverb very nice amp |
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I really liked that amp too. its definately "RUDE" in its tone, ina good way. |
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jd267

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Guys i went to a local store today to try out heads . I always bring my maxon od808 in my pocket walked by the orange jim root and said o cool. Went on playing all other heads bogner ect. on the way out i said to my self im trying this thing. plugged in and said wow this thing sounds cool and it was loud also. put my maxon in front and WTF!!!! im buying one VERY soon one of the best sounding mini heads i have herd  |
Made in china though??? Check out Stiff Amp trust me.. Just my opinion |
who cares . stiff amps are tony kranks new amps. |
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randy russell
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I sense some hiney-hurtin'. Let go of your jimmies. Seek unrustlement. |
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Guys i went to a local store today to try out heads . I always bring my maxon od808 in my pocket walked by the orange jim root and said o cool. Went on playing all other heads bogner ect. on the way out i said to my self im trying this thing. plugged in and said wow this thing sounds cool and it was loud also. put my maxon in front and WTF!!!! im buying one VERY soon one of the best sounding mini heads i have herd  |
Made in china though??? Check out Stiff Amp trust me.. Just my opinion |
who cares . stiff amps are tony kranks new amps. |
Well what Im saying is china SH#T sucks and no s#%t I live in phx? have you ever played a stiff amp? Maybe some players do care,,, I support made in USA or England Not china Plus the dirt head is one sweet sounding head... Trying to give a heads up to a fellow player going to buy garbage have you ever looked @ the circuit board???? Im telling you that orange china s#%t is garbage you will have static issues is 5 months ect... |
MIC doesn't matter, the factory however does. Made in USA or UK can also be open to quality issues, its less likely but still happens. Look at Lannings record with Mesa amps for example. I would buy MIC with perfect piece of mind, provided that the manufacturer offered a comprehensive warranty, so if it all goes south, I wouldn't be out of pocket. If you can afford everything to be USA or UK made then good on ya, but imagine the markup price on these of that was the case. I'm sure you would be talking £700ish instead of the £450 they are retailing for. This is why companies are investing heavily in getting their oriental factories kitted out with high quality machines, using higher quality components and improving Quality Control
These little amps seem awesome and I would love to try one. Check out Andertons UK's product review on YouTube  |
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Is static and issue with orange amps ? |
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| Im telling you that orange china s#%t is garbage you will have static issues is 5 months ect... |
I suppose the benefit would be flyway hair though? You would save money on a hairstylist  |
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randy russell
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| Im telling you that orange china s#%t is garbage you will have static issues is 5 months ect... |
I suppose the benefit would be flyway hair though? You would save money on a hairstylist  |
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jd267

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| Im telling you that orange china s#%t is garbage you will have static issues is 5 months ect... |
I suppose the benefit would be flyway hair though? You would save money on a hairstylist  |
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I seen the line of stiff amps . I don't like buying new market stuff also as i would rather wait for a review to check it out. the krank line was not great sounding at all and broke down like crazy. Same builder |
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jd267

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| Im telling you that orange china s#%t is garbage you will have static issues is 5 months ect... |
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haha funny |
I seen the line of stiff amps . I don't like buying new market stuff also as i would rather wait for a review to check it out. the krank line was not great sounding at all and broke down like crazy. Play my STiff Amp over 3 hours a day over a year not one problem I played the Jim Root and the AD 90 is better just my opinion everybody has one. There is a reason Tony left Krank.. I just saying why buy chinise when you can get better for less ? |
Thanks man . sounds like a sales pitch is this tony??  |
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i've taken apart alot of stuff made in china that didn't work
usaly its the micro spec of solder ment to hold the micro wire to connection or wires break since too small,
most stuff made there sold here won't get returned to china the companys here eat the loss and replace item ,
whenever i can i don't buy anything mic but getting harder some stuff is only made there now, i also suspect mic stuff
the product is less well made than the proto they make for companys
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thatoneguy12986

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| No this is Randy Russell a 41 year old guitar player living in phx az. I was lucky enough to meet Tony and get 2 killer 50 watt heads that sound beyond real and was trying to steer you in the right direction for perfect tone..Buttt you would rather be a kook then try to just be real... I see you like Darrell so why would you did Tony A@@Face...Go F$%^ yourself and buy what the F#$% you want |
Let the butthurt flow...
Seriously, why are you so offended he likes the Orange amp? Who the hell cares? Will it honestly affect you and your daily life whatsoever if he buys it? Shut the hell up and get off the internet if your feelings get hurt that easily. JD buy whatever amp you feel like. The Jim Root Terror is a cool little amp. |
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| No this is Randy Russell a 41 year old guitar player living in phx az. I was lucky enough to meet Tony and get 2 killer 50 watt heads that sound beyond real and was trying to steer you in the right direction for perfect tone..Buttt you would rather be a kook then try to just be real... I see you like Darrell so why would you did Tony A@@Face...Go F$%^ yourself and buy what the F#$% you want |
Let the butthurt flow...
Seriously, why are you so offended he likes the Orange amp? Who the hell cares? Will it honestly affect you and your daily life whatsoever if he buys it? Shut the hell up and get off the internet if your feelings get hurt that easily. JD buy whatever amp you feel like. The Jim Root Terror is a cool little amp. |
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| No this is Randy Russell a 41 year old guitar player living in phx az. I was lucky enough to meet Tony and get 2 killer 50 watt heads that sound beyond real and was trying to steer you in the right direction for perfect tone..Buttt you would rather be a kook then try to just be real... I see you like Darrell so why would you did Tony A@@Face...Go F$%^ yourself and buy what the F#$% you want |
Let the butthurt flow...
Seriously, why are you so offended he likes the Orange amp? Who the hell cares? Will it honestly affect you and your daily life whatsoever if he buys it? Shut the hell up and get off the internet if your feelings get hurt that easily. JD buy whatever amp you feel like. The Jim Root Terror is a cool little amp. |
Thanks man i hate forum tuff guys.. We are all friends here . He prob works for them just like what krank did on harmony that wrecked there rep. Tony is a cool guy and helped me with my krankenstein when it s#%t out. Im sure he makes some cool amps but i dug the jim root . what the hell is it to you man?? total sales pitch  |
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I really want to try one out, it would look good with my Jim Root Strat.  |
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| No this is Randy Russell a 41 year old guitar player living in phx az. I was lucky enough to meet Tony and get 2 killer 50 watt heads that sound beyond real and was trying to steer you in the right direction for perfect tone..Buttt you would rather be a kook then try to just be real... I see you like Darrell so why would you did Tony A@@Face...Go F$%^ yourself and buy what the F#$% you want |
Let the butthurt flow...
Seriously, why are you so offended he likes the Orange amp? Who the hell cares? Will it honestly affect you and your daily life whatsoever if he buys it? Shut the hell up and get off the internet if your feelings get hurt that easily. JD buy whatever amp you feel like. The Jim Root Terror is a cool little amp. |
Who are you I was being nice until i was disrespected you get off the internet |
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Hey randy you mentioned static before on orange amps could you explain more about that because although i don't own one but i do follow what they make and i've never heard of that being a problem. |
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| Is static and issue with orange amps ? |
I've owned two for about five years - never one issue. |
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randy russell
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| Hey randy you mentioned static before on orange amps could you explain more about that because although i don't own one but i do follow what they make and i've never heard of that being a problem. |
Bad caps horrible solder joints thin wire caps ect..I went through 3 and had enough. Even the circuit boards are bad..Ya they sound great @ first but if you play @ least a couple hours every day they will NOT last they start to snap crackle pop after a while.. Just my experience |
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randy russell
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| Is static and issue with orange amps ? |
I've owned two for about five years - never one issue. |
You must have the made in England hand wired right? |
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thatoneguy12986

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No you were pretty much a dick from the get go. |
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jd267

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| No you were pretty much a dick from the get go. |
Haaaa that's funny man. I don't be leave anything this guy is saying about orange . Orange would not put out crap to soil there bullet proof name in the industry. Kick rocks dude |
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Anyone who goes on a tie-raid about China must live in a card board box made in the USA... The computers you guys are arguing on are made in China. Don't blame the end user for reaping the benefits of cheap labor, blame the companies for outsourcing. Stop paying your federal taxes, bury guns in your back yard, put up razor wire and fly that American Flag high!
My guitars are USA made... My amp is USA made, my delay pedal is made in Poland, my noise gate and tuner are both made in China. What does it all mean? Nothing.
USA made can mean quality and it can also mean paying an overweight dude buried to the teeth in his mortgage with 2 kids, a wife and a drug habit trying to make ends meet. Or it can be an honest worker making a quality product at a fair price.
Made in China can mean slave labor at poor wages in unsanitary working conditions... OOOOOR it can mean state of the art facilites with super strict QC where employees are well taken care of. It can mean providing the workers and their families with education and healthcare...
I'm so sick and tired of people who think Made In (Insert your country here) means you are some kind of patriot who has the right to sh1t on anyone who thinks differently than you. That's a lack of intelligence right there. And don't defend yourself on your Chinese made computer unless you're a hypocrite. |
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The rule of thumb has alwasy been - to some extent you get exactly what you pay for.
Of course there are soem exceptions, but asa rule it rings true.
For example, my cheap USA made peavey is decent, but does NOT hang with my blackstar. of course, tehn again, it ws way cheaper too. |
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Anyone who goes on a tie-raid about China must live in a card board box made in the USA... The computers you guys are arguing on are made in China. Don't blame the end user for reaping the benefits of cheap labor, blame the companies for outsourcing. Stop paying your federal taxes, bury guns in your back yard, put up razor wire and fly that American Flag high!
My guitars are USA made... My amp is USA made, my delay pedal is made in Poland, my noise gate and tuner are both made in China. What does it all mean? Nothing.
USA made can mean quality and it can also mean paying an overweight dude buried to the teeth in his mortgage with 2 kids, a wife and a drug habit trying to make ends meet. Or it can be an honest worker making a quality product at a fair price.
Made in China can mean slave labor at poor wages in unsanitary working conditions... OOOOOR it can mean state of the art facilites with super strict QC where employees are well taken care of. It can mean providing the workers and their families with education and healthcare...
I'm so sick and tired of people who think Made In (Insert your country here) means you are some kind of patriot who has the right to sh1t on anyone who thinks differently than you. That's a lack of intelligence right there. And don't defend yourself on your Chinese made computer unless you're a hypocrite. |
Well china cuts corners fact cheaper evrything Nothing against the Chinise..Made in Japan is premium blah blah blah FACT made in china sucks! |
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The problem is if the Terror line was hand built in the UK they would cost nearly double what they are being made in China. At that price point it would make the line pointless. Their purpose is to give the average person the opportunity to buy an Orange amp who probably never would given their price point. Just so you know Randy, the hand wired Tiny Terror is still built in China. Not everyone can drop 2 grand on a Rockerverb. |
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Anyone who goes on a tie-raid about China must live in a card board box made in the USA... The computers you guys are arguing on are made in China. Don't blame the end user for reaping the benefits of cheap labor, blame the companies for outsourcing. Stop paying your federal taxes, bury guns in your back yard, put up razor wire and fly that American Flag high!
My guitars are USA made... My amp is USA made, my delay pedal is made in Poland, my noise gate and tuner are both made in China. What does it all mean? Nothing.
USA made can mean quality and it can also mean paying an overweight dude buried to the teeth in his mortgage with 2 kids, a wife and a drug habit trying to make ends meet. Or it can be an honest worker making a quality product at a fair price.
Made in China can mean slave labor at poor wages in unsanitary working conditions... OOOOOR it can mean state of the art facilites with super strict QC where employees are well taken care of. It can mean providing the workers and their families with education and healthcare...
I'm so sick and tired of people who think Made In (Insert your country here) means you are some kind of patriot who has the right to sh1t on anyone who thinks differently than you. That's a lack of intelligence right there. And don't defend yourself on your Chinese made computer unless you're a hypocrite. |
Well china cuts corners fact cheaper evrything Nothing against the Chinise..Made in Japan is premium blah blah blah FACT made in china sucks! |
"FACT made in china sucks!"
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Anyone who goes on a tie-raid about China must live in a card board box made in the USA... The computers you guys are arguing on are made in China. Don't blame the end user for reaping the benefits of cheap labor, blame the companies for outsourcing. Stop paying your federal taxes, bury guns in your back yard, put up razor wire and fly that American Flag high!
My guitars are USA made... My amp is USA made, my delay pedal is made in Poland, my noise gate and tuner are both made in China. What does it all mean? Nothing.
USA made can mean quality and it can also mean paying an overweight dude buried to the teeth in his mortgage with 2 kids, a wife and a drug habit trying to make ends meet. Or it can be an honest worker making a quality product at a fair price.
Made in China can mean slave labor at poor wages in unsanitary working conditions... OOOOOR it can mean state of the art facilites with super strict QC where employees are well taken care of. It can mean providing the workers and their families with education and healthcare...
I'm so sick and tired of people who think Made In (Insert your country here) means you are some kind of patriot who has the right to sh1t on anyone who thinks differently than you. That's a lack of intelligence right there. And don't defend yourself on your Chinese made computer unless you're a hypocrite. |
Well china cuts corners fact cheaper evrything Nothing against the Chinise..Made in Japan is premium blah blah blah FACT made in china sucks! |
"FACT made in china sucks!"
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Anyone who goes on a tie-raid about China must live in a card board box made in the USA... The computers you guys are arguing on are made in China. Don't blame the end user for reaping the benefits of cheap labor, blame the companies for outsourcing. Stop paying your federal taxes, bury guns in your back yard, put up razor wire and fly that American Flag high!
My guitars are USA made... My amp is USA made, my delay pedal is made in Poland, my noise gate and tuner are both made in China. What does it all mean? Nothing.
USA made can mean quality and it can also mean paying an overweight dude buried to the teeth in his mortgage with 2 kids, a wife and a drug habit trying to make ends meet. Or it can be an honest worker making a quality product at a fair price.
Made in China can mean slave labor at poor wages in unsanitary working conditions... OOOOOR it can mean state of the art facilites with super strict QC where employees are well taken care of. It can mean providing the workers and their families with education and healthcare...
I'm so sick and tired of people who think Made In (Insert your country here) means you are some kind of patriot who has the right to sh1t on anyone who thinks differently than you. That's a lack of intelligence right there. And don't defend yourself on your Chinese made computer unless you're a hypocrite. |
Well china cuts corners fact cheaper evrything Nothing against the Chinise..Made in Japan is premium blah blah blah FACT made in china sucks! |
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There was a time in the not-too-distant past when MADE IN JAPAN was assumed to be of significantly inferior quality.
Companies can make a lousy product or a quality product in any country. There are US-manufactured guitars of the highest quality........and there are also turds of the highest magnitude that need the double-flush to clear the stench. |
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There was a time in the not-too-distant past when MADE IN JAPAN was assumed to be of significantly inferior quality.
Companies can make a lousy product or a quality product in any country. There are US-manufactured guitars of the highest quality........and there are also turds of the highest magnitude that need the double-flush to clear the stench. |
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Honestly from a technology and capability standpoint china can produce whatever quality of any product the company who contracting them to build requires. Problem is when Western companies see the profit margins rise with cutting corners and and using lesser grade parts greed overrides quality. So even if it is built in USA, Germany, Taiwan, Spain, China or Vietnam. Quality is hit and miss. Sister in law bought a Mercedes built in Germany that was a lemon, bought one built in Alabama and it has not had a single problem! |
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| No this is Randy Russell a 41 year old guitar player living in phx az. I was lucky enough to meet Tony and get 2 killer 50 watt heads that sound beyond real and was trying to steer you in the right direction for perfect tone..Buttt you would rather be a kook then try to just be real... I see you like Darrell so why would you dis Tony A@@Face...Go F$%^ yourself and buy what the F#$% you want |
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This thread is so full of epic fail, I see a banhammer rising in the distance
As a rule, I am not a fan of Chinese made stuff but I am hardpressed to look more then a foot anywhere in my house without seeing something made from there |
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This thread is so full of epic fail, I see a banhammer rising in the distance
As a rule, I am not a fan of Chinese made stuff but I am hardpressed to look more then a foot anywhere in my house without seeing something made from there |
I here you man i was just showing my gas for the awesome little amp.. then that dude popped in trying to sell his amp line of junk krank thin sounding s#%t. |
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F*ck no; I don't have the scratch for that! Like Lanning says, the quality of MIC products does depend on the factory - and that's a fact, my friend.
Both Orange's I've owned have been MIC (though I think Orange claims the Terror series is 'designed in England', so perhaps that's something to do with the quality) and I've not had any sound issues down to the amp.
Bad pickups or guitar wiring, and noisy pedals - sure. But nothing down to faulty or bad circuitry in the amp itself.
I know I shouldn't feed the troll, but I couldn't help but weigh in from my own personal experience. My Terrors have been great, I've gigged extensively with my Tiny Terror, and the only 'repairs' I've had to make have been replacing dead valves. |
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I've owned two for about five years - never one issue. |
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F*ck no; I don't have the scratch for that! Like Lanning says, the quality of MIC products does depend on the factory - and that's a fact, my friend.
Both Orange's I've owned have been MIC (though I think Orange claims the Terror series is 'designed in England', so perhaps that's something to do with the quality) and I've not had any sound issues down to the amp.
Bad pickups or guitar wiring, and noisy pedals - sure. But nothing down to faulty or bad circuitry in the amp itself.
I know I shouldn't feed the troll, but I couldn't help but weigh in from my own personal experience. My Terrors have been great, I've gigged extensively with my Tiny Terror, and the only 'repairs' I've had to make have been replacing dead valves. |
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Damn the butt hurt continues lol. to me arguing about what amp is best is like arguing who has the best mom.
So after reading this thread I decided to plug myself into the terror line of mini amps on my last visit to GS. I like these little beast. Now I have a new want damnittohell! lol |
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Yes Randy, you are a troll. JD did nothing but come here telling about an amp he plugged into and now would like to buy. You come in and sh.it all over the thread. Anyone with a differing opinion than yours is automatically stupid and everything you say is right. Like I said in an above post, the purpose of the Terror line is to give the average person the chance to own an all tube Orange head without dropping a small fortune. The purpose of the Jim Root head, if you like the Rockerverb but can't drop $2k+, there you have the Jim Root head. If the Terror line of amps were handbuilt in the UK they would cost almost double, thus defeating their purpose.
I'm with you, though. I'd buy everything made in USA if it were possible. Fact of the matter is, if you were to go through your house and get rid of everything made in China, or anything with made in China parts, your home would be pretty much empty and you wouldn't have a car.
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Yes Randy, you are a troll. JD did nothing but come here telling about an amp he plugged into and now would like to buy. You come in and sh.it all over the thread. Anyone with a differing opinion than yours is automatically stupid and everything you say is right. Like I said in an above post, the purpose of the Terror line is to give the average person the chance to own an all tube Orange head without dropping a small fortune. The purpose of the Jim Root head, if you like the Rockerverb but can't drop $2k+, there you have the Jim Root head. If the Terror line of amps were handbuilt in the UK they would cost almost double, thus defeating their purpose.
I'm with you, though. I'd buy everything made in USA if it were possible. Fact of the matter is, if you were to go through your house and get rid of everything made in China, or anything with made in China parts, your home would be pretty much empty and you wouldn't have a car.
If you don't like this amp is made in China, don't buy it. Ignore any thread that has to do with it. Or keep trolling, and I can see the ban hammer coming in your future. |
My intention was to give a heads up I have owned 2 dark terrors the third one I sold because I wasnt going to deal with another static issue. I play alot and mean alot so maybe 2 hours a day would be a little much on a lunchbox amp I kept the volume less than halfway..When I so called butted in I was trying to WARN about buying ANY CHINA MADE ORANGE AMP period and all I got was a smart ass remark I didnt really dig the krankenstein or the rev so i was @ a loss I played out of a hot rod plexi for years with boost ect ect Then a customer I painted his SUV told me about Tony AKA Stiff Amp.. So I was like wow really I can meet the guy that Dime loved his Amp So I was super Hyped So I bought a 50watt Dirthead and was blown away to good to be true.. The tone was just ass good if not a little better the my friends mesa boogie duel RECT...So i have owned it a year and jam on it all the time...So I bought another Stiff Amp 50watt AD-90 also Just a unreal great sounding amp . I know it sounds like a sales pitch but it is not..My OPINION is why pay $700.00 for the orange jim root when you can buy a head that has top shelf everything for a little less?????? Im just saying We as guitar players buy this cut corner made in china vietnamn ect CRAP....Then they will keep doing it.. So call me troll say this or that my intention was really a heads up |
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If you had come in explaining it like that in the first place no one would be calling you a troll. But when you immediately tell someone to go f.ck themselves for having a different opinion, well there you have the issue. Honestly you're the first person I've heard have anything negative to say about the Tiny Terror line. Everything I've read has been positive. Not everyone can have positive experiences, doesn't mean that everyone will have the same issues as you did. I'm not saying I like the fact so much is made in China, it's just the way the world is now. The sad thing is, everything is designed to fail. That way, you eventually get sick of paying for repairs and go buy a new one. Nothing has been built to last forever since the 50's. |
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| If you had come in explaining it like that in the first place no one would be calling you a troll. But when you immediately tell someone to go f.ck themselves for having a different opinion, well there you have the issue. Honestly you're the first person I've heard have anything negative to say about the Tiny Terror line. Everything I've read has been positive. Not everyone can have positive experiences, doesn't mean that everyone will have the same issues as you did. I'm not saying I like the fact so much is made in China, it's just the way the world is now. The sad thing is, everything is designed to fail. That way, you eventually get sick of paying for repairs and go buy a new one. Nothing has been built to last forever since the 50's. |
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Yeah. But honestly if it were me, I would have taken a little bit of offense to someone immediately telling me the amp I like is a piece of sh.t. Your intentions may have been good, but it's the way you worded it. |
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all orange amps are kick a$$ i have a micro terror and a OR15 that i push through a 2x12 cab i love the tone that i can get with them. after playing them i want to get a hold of a thunderverb or a rockaverb |
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| all orange amps are kick a$$ i have a micro terror and a OR15 that i push through a 2x12 cab i love the tone that i can get with them. after playing them i want to get a hold of a thunderverb or a rockaverb |
I agree bro. I played all the Terrors and the OR15 when I went amp shopping. They are really good amps for the dough, but I went with the Thunder 30 head, which is monsterous. Not the most 'metal' amp, but it is really nice.
I don't know what went on here, but congrats on the new amp JD. The Jim Root Terror is the only one I haven't tried out but I expect it to be totally killer. |
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